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Docmom
06-01-2004, 04:13 PM
I was just listening to the radio and heard a report about the City of Waco Suing some of the dairies in Comanche and Erath counties. From what I know about it, The mayor of Waco is just trying to hurt the area. I think we all should ban together and show our support of those hard working Dairymen. They work long hours and get little respect.

unicorn
06-01-2004, 04:59 PM
maybe that is why the milk product have sky rocketed

Rhiannon
06-01-2004, 05:49 PM
Oh Doc, you opened a whole can of worms here! I'm so mad at the city of Waco.
I will be posting some articles to get ya'll caught up on how crazy they are.

Rhiannon
06-01-2004, 05:51 PM
From Stephenville Empire Tribune

Waco sues area dairies
The City of Waco turned February’s intent to sue into lawsuits against eight Erath County dairies late Thursday in federal court in Waco.

Named in the suit are Schouten Dairy and J & L Dairy of Stephenville; Cen-Tex Dairy of Hico; and Dutch Cowboy Dairy, Excel Dairy, Triple Dutch Dairy, Hidden View Dairy and Aztex Dairy, all of Dublin.

According to the suit, the city is “seeking remedies for pollution and damage to Lake Waco and City of Waco water treatment facilities caused by the defendants.”

Word of the suit broke late Thursday on KXXV Channel 25 in Waco with Waco Attorney Roy Barrett saying the suit was based on a number of state and federal laws that prohibit the discharge of waste into navigable waters and lakes. He also said the city is asking for injunctive relief to force the dairies to stop the discharge of cow waste and for the city to recover the money spent on trying to clean up the problem.

Saturday’s edition of the Waco Herald Tribune reported, “The lawsuit... alleged that the eight, separately owned, dairies have failed to properly handle liquid and solid waste. Those dairies have permits for a total of about 10,900 cows. The result is that drinking water from Lake Waco has been harmed by the pollution. The North Bosque contributes about 75 percent of Lake Waco’s water.”

Rhiannon
06-01-2004, 05:52 PM
From Empire Tribune

Just who does she think she is?

Wow and double wow. Who does the mayor of Waco think she is? Mayor Ethridge seems to be determined to drive dairymen out of Erath County insisting that the dairy industry makes Waco’s lake water taste bad. Waco residents have smelled and tasted that lake for many years and they tell me that it always stinks. I never tasted it myself and in fact always sped right through that town on my way to wherever. Well, actually I’ve not always sped through there because if I am traveling on Highway 6 coming back, I have to concentrate hard not to get lost in Waco’s unconventional highway system. Once I had a police escort to the city limits because I rolled down my window at a stop light and asked a policeman how to get back home to Stephenville. He seemed in a big hurry to send me on my way, probably thought I’d hidden a bucket of cow manure in the truck of my car that I was planning to dump in their lake.

The only thing that Waco has that I covet is that wonderful statue of George B. Erath in front of the Texas Rangers’ Museum. We really ought to have that piece of art here in Stephenville, seems to me. He could stand right next to Moola because I never heard anything about Erath hating cows and from what I read, the cow-haters all live in Waco.

Tom and I have been involved in the dairy business here in Erath County since we built that first double four flat barn in 1954. In the beginning Tom milked 14 cows while I taught school. We added cows as the checks came in the mail but our herd was never more than 50. We built a house, raised two kids and bought four farms with our earnings and life was good. Dairying has always been lots of work but lots of pleasure too. After I quit teaching school, I started helping out in the dairy barn which by that time was a double eight parlor with a registered herd of Holsteins totaling 350 milking cows. Our son and son-in-law ran the dairy so I became a relief milk hand. That happened when I surprised a hired hand beating one of the cows. He had to leave in a hurry so I found myself standing in the pit between 16 cows at 3 o’clock in the morning.

Nobody in Erath County should have to be told that the dairy industry has been a major contributor to the economy of this area and that in the past 10 years the definite trend has been toward bigger and bigger operations. When a dairy grows, the requirements for control of waste increase as well. Dairymen must comply to stay in business. Every time improvements are made thousands of dollars are spent to meet the standards which are set by government agencies.

Now Mayor Ethridge wants to put herself ahead of those government agencies by suing several of the large dairies in Erath County. The woman is way off base but she is able to stir up a lot of controversy and once more the dairymen are forced to defend their honest operations.

Save the spotted cow!

Rhiannon
06-01-2004, 05:53 PM
This one really makes me MAD! From Empire Tribune also.

Moser praises Waco mayor’s river campaign

EDITOR’S NOTE: This is the first of a three-part series on the changing of the guard at city hall in Waco, and its affect on dairies in Bosque Watershed.

Stephenville Mayor John Moser praised Linda Ethridge Monday night in Waco during her final meeting as mayor of the Waco City Council.

According to an article in the Tuesday Waco Tribune-Herald, Ethridge “won praise from area mayors, including Mayor John Moser of Stephenville, a town in the heart of Texas dairy country. He said he and Ethridge had been fighting on the same side to clean up the North Bosque River.

“She is tenacious but also very gracious,” Moser said. “She’s like a bulldog. She won’t let go. But she’s also objective. She will look at an issue based not on emotion but science.”
He challenged Ethridge to run for state office so he “would have the chance to vote for her.”

Moser is also in his final days as mayor of Stephenville. Mayor Pro-Tem Rusty Jergins ran unopposed in city elections early this month and will be sworn in during next Tuesday’s council meeting.

“I have no apology to make for my comments in Waco,” says the two-term Stephenville mayor.

“The story is accurate although not complete,” said Moser, who addressed the Waco council after being invited to attend Ethridge’s final meeting. Moser spoke several minutes to the council.

“I went to Waco as an individual, although I was recognized during my introduction as mayor. I am also a member of the Bosque River Mayor Association. However I was not there representing anyone.”

Moser said there was no easy explanation as to why he had concerns with the dairy industry. “There is no short answer. You would have had to walk in my shoes the last five or six years to understand. My feelings concerning the dairies are personal. I will be happy to visit with anyone one on one about the specifics, however. Nothing can be gain by public disclosure though.”

Rhiannon
06-01-2004, 05:54 PM
Also courtesy of Stephenville Empire Tribune

Waco’s ‘water mayor’ legacy affects dairies


EDITOR’S NOTE: This is the second of a three part series on the changing of the guard at city hall in Waco, and its affect on dairies in Bosque Watershed. Credit is given to the Waco Herald-Tribune for information utilized in this article’s compilation.

The City of Waco has new mayor. Dr. Mae Jackson took over the reigns of Linda Ethridge last Monday night.

Ethridge completed two-terms as mayor of the city. During that time span, she spent much of her time battling clean water issues involving her hometown and dairy producers along the Bosque River. The battle included Erath County producers, of which eight have been sued by the City of Waco.

Stephenville Mayor John Moser probably described Ethridge most accurately during his farewell address to the Waco council saying, “She’s like a bulldog. She won’t let go.”

According to a report in the Waco Tribune-Herald on Tuesday, Ethridge told the crowd of 200, “While there are complexities to that issue, what it’s really all about is keeping the crap out of our water. As Will Rogers said, ‘You don’t want to drink downstream from the herd.”

In a May 2 article recapping Ethridge’s four years in office, the Tribune-Herald said that Ethridge may go down in history as the “water mayor.”

The article continued: “In April 2000, Ethridge attended a Bosque River Advisory Committee meeting in Stephenville with a speech in hand. The committee of dairy representatives, scientists and politicians, headed by State Rep. Arlene Wohlgemuth (R-Burleson), had been working four years to recommend solutions to the problem.

Ethridge stood up and told the group that they would have to commit to a much greater pollution reduction before Waco would go along. ‘Otherwise, the City of Waco will be compelled to seek protection through other remedies available.’

To this day, agricultural leaders, along with Wohlgemuth, now a congressional candidate, blame Ethridge for derailing the BRAC process.

“Progress was being made when the mayor came into office, “ said Joe Pope, agricultural extension agent in Erath County. “That changed when the mayor was elected.

Since then, Ethridge has go on to spearhead Waco’s efforts through legislation, lobbying, regulatory disputes, helicopter surveillance and litigation, including lawsuits filed April 29 against eight dairies in Erath County.

“The reality is that for years we sat at the table being cooperative, but it didn’t get us anything but a more polluted river,” she said. “To change the dynamics of the issue, there was an inevitable need for some confrontation. At one point, I stood up at the BRAC meeting and said, ‘You are tainting our water supply, and we want you to stop’.”

Pete Schouten of Stephenville, president of the Texas Association of Dairymen, had dealings with Ethridge first hand. “I’m very pleased to see her out. I had the job of dealing with her the last year and a half as we worked on new EPA rules and regulations. I found her not to be trusted for her word. We were supposed to be working in unison on the issues. As it turned out she was working on suing our dairymen.”

Ethridge provided a final warning to dairy producers last Monday night. “I have great confidence in Mayor Jackson and the council to carry this issue forward. People on the other side of this issue may choose this time to try and test the city’s resolve. All I can say to them is, ‘Wait til they meet Mayor Jackson.’”

Sunday: We’ll take at look at new Mayor Mae Jackson

Anonymous
06-01-2004, 05:55 PM
Well I think next time I see a dariy cow I am going to hop over the fence with a pair of over alls and a bucket and just Milk my own Damn cow .......Have ya'll ever seen those Rowell New Mexico 18 wheeler trucks that say Rowell MILK Jarrod my Husband thinks they hold Alien Milk , LOL .. something stupid to laught at .... :lol:

Rhiannon
06-01-2004, 05:55 PM
Last one from Stephenville Empire Tribune
New mayor, new chapter with Waco?EDITOR’S NOTE: This is the final installment in a three-part series on the changing of the guard at city hall in Waco and its effect on the dairies in the Bosque Watershed. Credit is given to the Waco Herald-Tribune for information used in the compilation of this article.

Dairy producers in the Bosque River Watershed have counted down the days remaining in the final term of Waco Mayor Linda Ethridge.

The “water mayor” has spearheaded Waco’s efforts to toughen rules and regulations on dairy producers, battled the state’s regulatory agency, and taken Waco’s case to court by ending her four year stay in office with the filing suits against eight Erath County dairies.

As of last Monday, Waco has a new mayor, Dr. Mae Jackson. Jackson is no newcomer to city hall having just completed her second term on the city council.

The retired social worker says her top priority, as mayor is “to establish continuity in our water quality efforts and move to closure on state policies which prevent further contamination of our water supply.”

Jackson, who has been active with many Waco organizations, says she will “continue to work with our highly qualified water quality and legal staff persons to provide Wacoans with informed and effective representation in the efforts to clean up our water. I will utilize the state and federal government relationships that I have developed over the past 30 years to Waco’s advantage.”

Jackson was appointed by then Governor Ann Richards to serve as Executive Board Member for the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles from 1991-1997. She has a doctorate degree in human services from the University of Texas at Arlington.

In an April 21 debate, Jackson was asked if she would continue the aggressive approach against the industrial dairies in Erath County begun by predecessor. “I think I’m the only one who can provide continuity. I have a long history of working with the Texas Legislature and with Congress people in a way that the city will need to continue working. Nobody can walk exactly in somebody else’s shoes, but I think I can fill those shoes quite well. I have existing relationships that have been developed over a 30-year period with people in Austin and in Washington. We need to continue those efforts. We’re at a critical point. It’s going to be important that the mayor speak for Waco and I think I can speak for Waco. I certainly have had the same offers from Mayor Ethridge and will use her appropriately.”

While saying she would call on Ethridge for her expertise in water pollution issues, Jackson said she would be the city’s official spokeswoman for that issue. “The political situation sometimes demands the mayor. The mayor needs to stand up and say where the Waco City Council is. “Our styles may be different, but the substance will be the same, and our intensity will be the same.”

Steve Vanden Berge of Stephenville is a dairy producer and treasurer of the Texas Association of Dairies. “I hope we can work together. We both same goal, clean water in the Bosque River. TAD would be willing to sit down and have good communications to reach that goal.”

Jackson is anxious to get to work as mayor. “As soon as we can, I want to have a council retreat so we can sit down and talk. I don’t expect this council to be encumbered by the old one. There’ll be different dynamics. I mean, even if we’re not on the same page, I want to make sure we’re in the same book.”

Anonymous
06-01-2004, 05:56 PM
she must not be a very good person. sounds like a real trouble maker.

BigGunz
06-01-2004, 08:43 PM
maybe neighboring counties should complain to Waco that their water supply is freaking our cows out!

unicorn
06-01-2004, 08:44 PM
they would probably find something else to complain about

BigGunz
06-01-2004, 08:48 PM
Theres always something to complain about thats for sure!

Anonymous
06-01-2004, 09:37 PM
i hope that lady sees what kind of trouble she has stepped into. she sure is wasting the taxpayers money also. hope the people of waco see through her.

CuriousGal
06-01-2004, 09:41 PM
I don't know all of the facts in this situation but I do have a couple of questions. According to one article quoted above, the BRAC had been working on a recommendation to solve the problem for four years. I know that government agencies and councils such as this take forever to actually make a change but when it comes to drinking water, isn't four years a bit too long? Is it reasonable to think that the former mayor of Waco was trying to get the whole thing moving at a faster pace?

I am in NO way against the dairymen. I support them in what they do (what in the world would I do without milk?) and I don't see contamination as being their fault entirely. Again, I don't have all of the facts. I do think that those who are involved in this problem (milk producers, EPA, etc.) should step up their efforts to fix this problem.

I have a feeling (might be completely wrong) that these lawsuits are an attempt to get something done rather than an attempt to punish dairy producers.

JMHO,

CG

Anonymous
06-01-2004, 09:47 PM
i think the lady is just nuts from all the wild stories i have heard about her and i have heard some beauties.

BigGunz
06-01-2004, 09:59 PM
well by all means do share these stories with us....lol

unicorn
06-01-2004, 10:17 PM
yes do share

Anonymous
06-02-2004, 05:32 AM
don't you keep up with the news. go back and read what rhiannon put up. this stuff is on the news all the time. this lady is so jealous of the dairy farmers of stephenville. i am in high hopes that she will be set on her back side this time. you might also do well to check with the radio station in comanche and stephenville for info. better yet go to one of the dairies and see for your self how they are complying with this. You might find out they are doing what they are suppose to and find out the problem is closer to waco then erath county.

Rhiannon
06-02-2004, 08:23 AM
Lake Wacko has been polluted for awhile, partly because the city's own sewer plant leaked.
TCEQ formally TNRCC controls and regulates dairy pollution. All the accused dairies are in compliance with TCEQ. And scientific tests of the water have been done. That is not good enough for Former mayor Ethridge. She want to bypass the state regulation authority and go after the dairies herself. She has her own agenda, and it very personally motivated. She has used many taxpayer dollars on her anti dairy campaign, even flying helicopters over the dairies.
These dairymen don't have taxpayer money to pay their legal expenses. They are stuck out on their own.

Docmom
06-02-2004, 10:52 AM
It sure would be funny if she had to pay for this all herself since she is the one that has caused it all. Can you imagine being dumb enough to fly over the dairies. She has got some serious problems. We should send her off.

BigGunz
06-02-2004, 01:24 PM
don't you keep up with the news. go back and read what rhiannon put up. this stuff is on the news all the time. this lady is so jealous of the dairy farmers of stephenville. i am in high hopes that she will be set on her back side this time. you might also do well to check with the radio station in comanche and stephenville for info. better yet go to one of the dairies and see for your self how they are complying with this. You might find out they are doing what they are suppose to and find out the problem is closer to waco then erath county.

Duhhhhhhhhhhh I keep up with the news but in the post before you seemed to have some more knowledge other than whats posted by Rhiannon......so if your going to post something like that then dadgummit share it with us...we like extra dirt on our subjects.....lol

Anonymous
06-02-2004, 01:54 PM
dont get so upset. what i have heard comes from a friend and on the news. it has been posted here gunz. the lady that is being talked about went to Waco from stephenville . try not to get so upset because that i was saying that i have heard lots of stories about her. they have mostly been told here.

BigGunz
06-02-2004, 02:05 PM
im not upset...did you not see the LOL at the end?....geeze....I just want the dirt is all...come on now out with it.....lol

Docmom
06-02-2004, 02:06 PM
dont get so upset. what i have heard comes from a friend and on the news. it has been posted here gunz. the lady that is being talked about went to Waco from stephenville . try not to get so upset because that i was saying that i have heard lots of stories about her. they have mostly been told here.

Don't worry Lousey I know as much as you do about it. I told you most since I have close ties to Erath County. Don't let them worry ya. I have two close friends in Erath County that keep me in on the dairy situations there. I also had an uncle that had a dairy in and around Stephenville several years ago.

BigGunz
06-02-2004, 02:28 PM
yeah lousey dont worry about it...just give us the "REAL" dirt on this woman.....lol

Anonymous
06-03-2004, 11:26 AM
HI!

pamela
06-03-2004, 12:11 PM
so many people re-act on emotions..waco's lake has stunk for EVER way before there were any dairies in it's watershed..there are also old garbage dumps along this water shed as well as laundrymats in waco the "dump" their "polluted" (soapy) water into the lake.the golden algea bloom occurs in lakes that have NO run off from daires what so ever..this is a witch hunt, she ( ethrige) seems to have some vendetta against the dairy industry, and the mayor of stephenville siding with her..that's ludicrous/ he needs to be tarred and feathered :shock:
science will show the dairy industry is working hard and is complying...REMEMBER JUNE IS DAIRY MONTH!

I went to Austin a few years ago when this attack from Waco was just beggining, they brought two bus loads of people to the capitol, I talked to a few of them and asked them what they were there for, they said a free bus trip to Austin and they wanted clean water, but they really had no idea what was going on...

Rhiannon
06-03-2004, 12:11 PM
This was in today's Stephenville paper!

Waco sues six more dairies

The City of Waco intensified its legal barrage against the Erath County dairy industry this week with the adding of six additional dairies to its April 29 suit.

The amended suit, dated last Friday, includes four additional Erath County dairies, and individual dairies in Bosque and Hamilton counties.

The six dairies named are Hamilton County’s Broumley Dairy of Hico, Bosque County’s Golden Star Dairy-of Hico, and Erath County Dairies SCOW10 Dairy-Hico, Scenic Ridge Dairy-Lingleville, Double S Dairy-Lingleville, and Russell Carpenter Dairy-Stephenville.

With the amendment, 14 dairies, 12 of which are in Erath County, are being sued by the City of Waco.

The original eight plus the new six dairies will be served the new papers. The serving began late Tuesday and is expected to take several days.

“I am additionally disturbed that Waco chooses to increase the number of dairies in this suit,” said John Cowan, general manager of the Texas Association of Dairymen. “This is particularly difficult to understand, especially in light of the fact that progress was being made on points of concern.”

Cowan cited a Feb. 23 meeting in Austin involving his organization, City of Waco officials, Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) including Commissioner Kathleen White, and other state agencies. “Mayor (Linda) Ethridge, City Manager Larry Grooth, and Assistant City Manager Wyley Stem attended that meeting on the heels of Waco’s notice of intent to sue on Feb. 14. We all reached consensus agreement including a provision that would be included in the new TCEQ CAFO rules that dairymen would be willing to comply with. We all left feeling considerable progress had been made.”

Cowan says two days later, Ethridge told him that the Waco City Council had agreed to the agreement.

“From that point everything seemed on track. Then on April 29 the first eight suits were filed. Go figure,” Cowan concluded.

In the suit, the City of Waco alleges that dairies have failed to properly handle liquid and solid waste and names phosphorus as the single pollutant contributing to the river’s pollution.

Cowan said the named dairies have 20 days to file a response, once they have been served. He says TAD has retained legal counsel who has begun research on the lawsuit’s seven causes of action alleged in the suit.

BigGunz
06-03-2004, 12:30 PM
Thanks Rhiannon...keep the news coming to us here.

unicorn
06-03-2004, 01:00 PM
yes please keep us informed

Rhiannon
06-03-2004, 01:24 PM
Thanks Rhiannon...keep the news coming to us here.

Save the Spotted Cow!

BigGunz
06-03-2004, 01:27 PM
isnt that discrimantory towards jersey's?.....roflol

Anonymous
06-03-2004, 02:11 PM
OH YEA HI COWS .. :lol:

unicorn
06-03-2004, 04:12 PM
i like all of the cow really the calves are the best because they are so cute

Rhiannon
06-03-2004, 05:17 PM
I'm all for equal rights for cows. But the dairy industry is very important to our local economy.

Anonymous
06-03-2004, 05:22 PM
I don't know . All I know is the Dariy is gone up and gas , What else . I wonder

techgurl88
06-03-2004, 06:02 PM
I don't know . All I know is the Dariy is gone up and gas , What else . I wonder

I guess all this explains it. I couldn't believe it today when I went to the store and saw milk at $4.31!! Sheesh!

BigGunz
06-03-2004, 06:31 PM
I support our local dairies also...without them alot of small towns in our neighboring counties would just almost dry up and blow away...we dont want that!

CuriousGal
06-03-2004, 07:52 PM
Well, I didn't get one response to my post so I'll bow out and just read. I just have a few things to say and then I'm gone. I'm thinking that there must be a problem with Waco's water because if there wasn't, this suit wouldn't have been filed. At least, I'm hoping that a mayor of a semi-quasi-major town in Texas wouldn't file a frivolous lawsuit. Wouldn't surprise me though if she did. It sounds as if this former mayor has a bee in her bonnet when it comes to milk producers and in light of her backtracking and filing suit after agreeing to terms, it doesn't sound as if she was on solid ground. Those involved should be happy that she's no longer mayor.

So WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Waco water is unacceptable. Why? What can be done about it? If the cows' waste is a cause, along with other things, how can that be dealt with in such a way as to NOT pollute the water? Instead of focusing on the idiot humans who are screwing up progress here, how can the intelligent humans fix it?

CG

Rhiannon
06-03-2004, 08:15 PM
Well, I didn't get one response to my post so I'll bow out and just read. I just have a few things to say and then I'm gone. I'm thinking that there must be a problem with Waco's water because if there wasn't, this suit wouldn't have been filed. At least, I'm hoping that a mayor of a semi-quasi-major town in Texas wouldn't file a frivolous lawsuit. Wouldn't surprise me though if she did. It sounds as if this former mayor has a bee in her bonnet when it comes to milk producers and in light of her backtracking and filing suit after agreeing to terms, it doesn't sound as if she was on solid ground. Those involved should be happy that she's no longer mayor.

So WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? Waco water is unacceptable. Why? What can be done about it? If the cows' waste is a cause, along with other things, how can that be dealt with in such a way as to NOT pollute the water? Instead of focusing on the idiot humans who are screwing up progress here, how can the intelligent humans fix it?

CG

I tried to answer your question.

CuriousGal
06-03-2004, 08:37 PM
I tried to answer your question.

I just sent you a PM but I'm not sure if it was sent. Please let me know.

CG

Rhiannon
06-03-2004, 09:53 PM
I tried to answer your question.

I just sent you a PM but I'm not sure if it was sent. Please let me know.

CG

:) I got it! Thanks Cg.

june
06-04-2004, 08:24 AM
Eastland County people you have voiced support for Erath County Dairy people thus you will support me and all my neighbors who are on the Dead Horse Creek which is the head waters for the Leon River which is Lake Leon's watershed...We can move in all the dairy cattle that we want to and let that pee run in unlimited amout, unfiltered-- right into your water source...Then too think about this...there is not that much difference in mileage between me and thee...Lot of miles between Stephenville and Waco...Why one teacher said that they were making so much money that she quit her job and started milking cows as they had increased their herd by how many fold...Maybe there is big bucks there and we people our here have been missing the boat...
Just think about it...

Docmom
06-04-2004, 11:34 AM
:!: :lol:

I know there is a lot of money in dairies if you work hard enough, but now days they are losing money also. I am not sure if we have any left in Eastland County. Does anyone know?

pamela
06-07-2004, 07:00 AM
one woman who sued a dairy in gustine had cattleon her property that stood in the stream and you know what went down the river,the dairy she sued has free stalls, that means the cows are on sand, the have fans blowing on them and are so happy they don't even go to the pasture much; the gates are left open for them...the sand is trucked out, and new is put in...this man won the suit, but it cost him lots of $$$$$
the dairies are being accused of destroying the land no why would they want ot do that? they want to keep it in good shpe for generations to come...

these dairy people aren't making any more $ now than before the prices went up. and yes June they do make good $ for their hard work, but those of you out there in the country could actually make more $$ by opening up your land for the hunters, now there's a great opportunity!

your county extention office will be happy to give you info on this..

june
06-07-2004, 07:23 AM
And, have some hunter bring in his relative to kill on my land...and all those law enforcement people crawling all over the place...no thank you...I'll keep my privacy...
Evidently you did not read the June 6 Abilene Reporter News about the money the diary farmer is making....lol...

Rhiannon
06-07-2004, 07:53 AM
I didn't read the article in the Reporter News. I'll try to find it though.
Dairying was at one time a very profitable business, that's why there was so many around here. Even peaople from other countries, came to Erath county to start dairies. But sad truth is, alot of dairy farmers have went belly up and quit the business, it's not that profitable anymore. It cost ALOT of money to operate a dairy operation.

Anonymous
06-07-2004, 10:15 AM
This world is funny sometimes :evil:

Anonymous
06-07-2004, 02:07 PM
i don't think that the dairy's make as much money anymore as they use to. with the new regulations that have been set out thanks to that lovely city of Waco for wasting the taxpayers money and helping the farmers lose theirs. nix to that lady mayor in waco.

Miss Mally
06-07-2004, 02:14 PM
She would have probably turned around and sued someone because she couldn't get milk or icecream.

Anonymous
06-07-2004, 02:15 PM
Heck its all about money

Miss Mally
06-07-2004, 05:42 PM
businesses...like dairies...go into to business to make money. How dare they!!!!!

Docmom
06-07-2004, 05:48 PM
I thought it was all about feeding America.

pamela
06-08-2004, 05:18 AM
no wonder you are a dem June, you want everyone else to do it for you..if you were a true capitalist you would write a novel or somethin..... :roll:

many here in Comanche County are laughing all the way to the bank while the big city guys come out for a good hunt!

not all hunters are bad by the way


has anyone ever answered the question what in the world did we all do before wellfare?

pamela
06-08-2004, 05:20 AM
oh and now it's time to go to the FREE dairy breakfast here in comanche..our dairy farmers feed everyone sausage, eggs with cheese, biscuits& butter, fresh fruit with REAL whipped cream! and plenty of milk and ice cream!

they DO try to give back to us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
06-08-2004, 05:57 AM
:!:

Rhiannon
06-08-2004, 07:15 AM
They certainly do! They give alot back to the community.

Anonymous
06-08-2004, 07:26 AM
i thought they give a lot back to the world. where would we be without the dairy farmers. starving to death i would imagine.

Miss Mally
06-08-2004, 09:22 AM
I kinda like icecream....I like butter to...real butter...not the plastic stuff. June doesn't think anyone that has more than her....should get to have it. Haven't ya'll noticed...she is a borderline communist, most democrats are.

Docmom
06-08-2004, 09:30 AM
I kinda like icecream....I like butter to...real butter...not the plastic stuff. June doesn't think anyone that has more than her....should get to have it. Haven't ya'll noticed...she is a borderline communist, most democrats are.

Now Mally this is what I was talking about earlier. LOL

Miss Mally
06-08-2004, 10:02 AM
I was being nice.....she don't mind being a commie...she is proud of it....she proclaims it.

Docmom
06-08-2004, 10:06 AM
Mally she proclaims Democrat, not Communist.

Rhiannon
06-08-2004, 10:09 AM
Lot's of communist in California.

Miss Mally
06-08-2004, 10:19 AM
not all democrats are commies...you are right Doc...lol.....but when the put LIBERAL in front of the democrat....they might as well be saying commie. hahahahahahahahahahahaha

june
06-08-2004, 05:15 PM
no wonder you are a dem June, you want everyone else to do it for you..if you were a true capitalist you would write a novel or somethin..... :roll:

many here in Comanche County are laughing all the way to the bank while the big city guys come out for a good hunt!

not all hunters are bad by the way


has anyone ever answered the question what in the world did we all do before wellfare?

And if I did this, where would "LAW ENFORCEMENT" LOL go for privacy...laughing all the way to the bank is for greedy Republicans...proud to be a Liberal Democrat whereas all people have a choice in a democracy...(and no, I do not need someone to go into my bio's or background.)

SosebeeArt
06-09-2004, 06:40 PM
SA's (sarcastic) solution to Waco's poo problem:

Buy up lots and lots of land (preferably around a "certain" lake), grow wheat on it. Grow really nice healthy wheat by fertilizing this land with ... what else? Dairy poo!

Buy the poo from the dairies
to fertilize the wheat
to sell to the dairies
to feed to the cows
that make the poo
(deedly deedly, deedly doo)

Now go back and say that out loud, really fast, like you're reading a Dr. Seuss book. But this solution is only fun if the wheat farming land borders the lake.

On a separate note - its been mentioned here that dairy farmers make lots of money on their dairies. I should hope so! Otherwise why would a person commit themselves and their families to such back-breaking, long hours, high-investment work? This household goes through milk like, um, ...water. And do we expect more milk, cheese and butter to be in the store when we run out? Yes we do!

Erath County, we hope this crazy woman Moooves on to other witch hunts soon! Or just plain Moooves out. (sorry. couldn't help it. I was raised this way! - Oops! no offense mom!)

Miss Mally
06-09-2004, 08:59 PM
Love the hy koo. hahahahahaha

you need to speek up more often SA

Docmom
06-09-2004, 09:01 PM
:D :lol: 8)

That was great.

Rhiannon
06-17-2004, 01:33 PM
Erath County is the Number 1 dairy county in Texas with about $200 million in annual milk sales.The local dairy industry directly employs about 1,300 people and generates $1.5 million in property taxes.

Rhiannon
06-17-2004, 01:56 PM
http://www.texasdairy.com/archives/pics/w0405a.jpg

Legal defense fund in place for dairies


When Harold Fritts first learned about the recent ploy by the City of Waco that threatened to sue 10 area dairies for allegedly breaking the Clean Water Act, he was dismayed and disappointed, shrouded by a feeling of unease and unrest. The warning signs were there and he felt compelled to do something about it. Following his own instincts, Fritts decided a few weeks ago to establish a legal defense fund for dairy producers just in case things turned from bad to worse.

Turns out that Fritts's instincts were far better than some regarding his decision to prepare ahead of time and put a plan into action. With the news on April 29 that eight of the original 10 dairy threats had turned into actual lawsuits, thanks to Fritts,' dairymen now have somewhere to start should they decide to launch a defensive campaign against Waco.

The one thing that kept sticking in Fritts' mind all along was, "Waco must not prevail." Drawing on that conclusion, he willingly contributed $5,000 dollars to establish a legal defense fund for dairy support he hopes others will contribute to also.

As president and owner of Gorman Milling since 1969, Fritts has been in the feed business for a total of 43 years. During those years, he has dealt with numerous dairy customers of whom he credits for the continued success of his business. Although he's been keenly aware of the ongoing battle between dairy producers and the City of Waco, nothing has hit home as much as the most recent actions by Waco. Waco's threats struck a chord with him, foreshadowing an impact to his business and his private life.

In Fritts' way of thinking, it's better to be prepared, just in case the inevitable should occur. Suspecting that the initial letters of intent would become much more serious, Fritts' intuition paid off.

"Of course, we were hoping the suits would never be filed," he said. "But, I decided to go ahead with the fund after the those first letters were sent because some dairymen were already seeking attorneys for advice and attorneys are very expensive."

Fritts feels Waco cannot be allowed to win in this situation for several reasons. "It's not just the eight dairies I'm worried about. It's the entire dairy industry being threatened. If Waco's allowed to win, it will open the door for more lawsuits. Once this kind of suit is won, it could possibly set a precedent for other similar suits."

Fritts said dairies are vitally important to his livelihood and to Erath County's economy. Although his business is located in Gorman, Fritts is a resident of Erath County where he's lived since 1961. "This is my home place. My three sons graduated from Stephenville High School and attended Tarleton State University, with two of them graduating from there. My wife and I go to church in Stephenville and enjoy living there. As a resident, I know what impact the dairies have on Erath County's economy.

"Erath's economy has been great and I want to see it remain that way. According to a study made a few years ago, dairies accounted for more than one-third of the county's economy. Every business---like equipment or tractor dealers, restaurants, car dealerships, etc., are all getting dairy money. The unemployment rate is very good---at about 2%---and the county gets a lot off sales tax. I don't want to see this county threatened or under siege by Waco's actions."