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    Merry Christmas from Barack Obama....lol

    He is not even in office yet and already he is sending a message to us all...The next four years this wolf in sheeps clothing will tear us apart...enjoy your Christmas this year...next years may not even come.

    Tuesday's report from the transition, detailing contacts between members of Obama's inner circle and embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and concluding that "nothing at all inappropriate" was discussed, won't be the final word on the subject—but it did provide some telling insight into the way the White House's new occupant will operate.

    Here are five rules of Obama scandal-management based on his team's handling of its first post-election crisis.

    1 - Be transparent, to an extent

    Obama's internal review was entirely voluntary and intended to demonstrate that his team had nothing to hide, and was committed to its pledge to run "the most open and transparent transition in history."

    But after announcing the review, his team declined to reveal who would conduct it, who would be interviewed or whether the resulting release would include any transition e-mails or records to support its conclusions.

    The review itself answered just one of those questions — we now know that White House Counsel Greg Craig led the review, which didn't include any documentation of what materials it went over — but it raised others, among them: Why did Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett communicate with Craig through her lawyer, whom the report does not name; how many conversations did incoming White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel have with Blagojevich; and why was Obama himself interviewed by prosecutors?

    The report says Emanuel urged Blagojevich to tap Jarrett for the Senate seat during "one or two telephone calls." But in the next paragraph, it refers to "those early conversations with the governor," and in a conference call unveiling the report, Craig said Emanuel "had a couple of conversations with the governor."

    Equally unclear is what exactly was reviewed in the report that concludes that nothing inappropriate occurs, and whether there were any transition e-mails or other records covering the Senate seat selection process.



    "We asked each individual who we thought might have had some contact or some communication that would be meaningful" to reconstruct "any contacts or communications, and that would include checking cell phone records or e-mails, and we inquired about that," Craig said. He added that "we've got the information that is required," and said he didn't know of any written communications.

    Also, the report revealed that prosecutors interviewed Obama, and did so after he had publicly declared he had been unaware of Blagojevich’s alleged plot to sell off the Senate seat Obama had vacated after winning the presidency, raising questions about why they took the unusual step of interviewing the president-elect, what they asked him and whether he was under oath.

    2 - Don't let the news cycle dictate response

    Freed from the rapid fire back-and-forth of the campaign, Obama, a stickler for preparation, resorted to his methodical instincts in trying to create order amidst the swirling scandal.

    But in taking his time, he's let the story linger into a third week.

    After drawing criticism for a listless initial response the day Blagojevich was arrested and accused of trying to sell the Senate seat vacated by the president-elect, Obama went a step further the next day by calling on the governor to resign. On the third day of the story, he announced the internal review. By the next week he acknowledged frustration over not being able to clear up inaccuracies about the case.

    Still, Obama resisted the temptation to spout off and stuck to the original plan: He would allow a written report to speak for him.

    When the transition released the five-page review Tuesday, the day before Christmas Eve, Obama was far removed from the action as he relaxed in Hawaii with his family. The physical distance served the same purpose as the report itself, separating Obama from the swirl of scandal

    3 - No freelancing

    The report suggested Obama wants his advisers to get his permission before even ostensibly private conservations with outsiders.

    Longtime Obama family friend Eric Whitaker seemed to follow this rule when he was approached by Blagojevich deputy Louanner Peters asking who could speak for Obama's preferences for the Senate seat.

    "Dr. Whitaker said he would find out," according to the report. After Whitaker was told by Obama that "no one was authorized to speak for him on the matter," the report states Whitaker "relayed that information to Deputy Governor Peters" and "had no other contacts with anyone from the governor's office."

    On the other side of that ledger was Emanuel, a much newer member of Obama's inner circle, who broke the rule by calling Blagojevich and recommending he tap Jarrett for the seat.

    "He did so before learning -- in further conversations with the president-elect -- that the president-elect had ruled out communicating a preference for any one candidate," according to the report. Later, when Emanuel chatted with Blagojevich's then-chief of staff, the report indicates it was "with the authorization of the president-elect."

    4 - Aides take hits to protect the boss

    Twice in handling the Blagojevich scandal, top Obama lieutenants were singled out for botching the message.

    The report makes clear that Emanuel was the only person in Obama's transition who had any contact with Blagojevich about filling the Senate seat and that his contact wasn't authorized by Obama.

    And Obama political guru David Axelrod made a public mea culpa after his boss contradicted a statement from an interview he gave last month, before the governor's arrest.

    In it, Axelrod unambiguously described a conversation between Obama and Blagojevich about filling the seat, saying, "I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."

    But after Obama declared he hadn't spoken to Blagojevich, Axelrod issued a statement saying, "I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the president-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy."

    5 – Shy away from even justified fights

    It seems only logical that Obama would want a say in picking his successor in the Senate, since the next junior senator from Illinois will represent the president-elect’s home and could be an important congressional ally.

    But Obama, whose penchant for avoiding tough stands on controversial issues frustrated opponents trying to land a clear shot in the presidential race, also steered clear of the Senate-seat derby, according to the report and Craig’s teleconference.

    Craig said Obama “was not engaging on this in any personal way and had no interest in dictating the result of the selection process.”

    The report says Obama talked with his top aides about a range of prospective Senators, but never winnowed down the group, dispatching Emanuel to relay a list of acceptable candidates to Blagojevich’s office.

    And according to the report, Obama was ambivalent about the Senate aspirations of Jarrett, contradicting the widely reported claim that she was his top choice for the Senate seat. Rather, the report says, Obama’s “preference (was) that Valerie Jarrett work with him in the White House." But it also states he made clear "he would neither stand in her way if she wanted to pursue the Senate seat nor actively seek to have her or any other particular candidate appointed to the vacancy."

    To the extent that the report succeeds in its goal of establishing the distance between Obama and Blagojevich, it necessarily raises the question: Why was the president-elect and leader of the Democratic party playing no role in a key appointment to national office being made in his home state, and by a Democratic governor?
    "Dear God, this year please send clothes for all those poor ladies on Grandpa's computer, Amen."

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    Re: Merry Christmas from Barack Obama....lol

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGunz View Post
    He is not even in office yet and already he is sending a message to us all...The next four years this wolf in sheeps clothing will tear us apart...enjoy your Christmas this year...next years may not even come.

    Tuesday's report from the transition, detailing contacts between members of Obama's inner circle and embattled Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and concluding that "nothing at all inappropriate" was discussed, won't be the final word on the subject—but it did provide some telling insight into the way the White House's new occupant will operate.

    Here are five rules of Obama scandal-management based on his team's handling of its first post-election crisis.

    1 - Be transparent, to an extent

    Obama's internal review was entirely voluntary and intended to demonstrate that his team had nothing to hide, and was committed to its pledge to run "the most open and transparent transition in history."

    But after announcing the review, his team declined to reveal who would conduct it, who would be interviewed or whether the resulting release would include any transition e-mails or records to support its conclusions.

    The review itself answered just one of those questions — we now know that White House Counsel Greg Craig led the review, which didn't include any documentation of what materials it went over — but it raised others, among them: Why did Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett communicate with Craig through her lawyer, whom the report does not name; how many conversations did incoming White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel have with Blagojevich; and why was Obama himself interviewed by prosecutors?

    The report says Emanuel urged Blagojevich to tap Jarrett for the Senate seat during "one or two telephone calls." But in the next paragraph, it refers to "those early conversations with the governor," and in a conference call unveiling the report, Craig said Emanuel "had a couple of conversations with the governor."

    Equally unclear is what exactly was reviewed in the report that concludes that nothing inappropriate occurs, and whether there were any transition e-mails or other records covering the Senate seat selection process.



    "We asked each individual who we thought might have had some contact or some communication that would be meaningful" to reconstruct "any contacts or communications, and that would include checking cell phone records or e-mails, and we inquired about that," Craig said. He added that "we've got the information that is required," and said he didn't know of any written communications.

    Also, the report revealed that prosecutors interviewed Obama, and did so after he had publicly declared he had been unaware of Blagojevich’s alleged plot to sell off the Senate seat Obama had vacated after winning the presidency, raising questions about why they took the unusual step of interviewing the president-elect, what they asked him and whether he was under oath.

    2 - Don't let the news cycle dictate response

    Freed from the rapid fire back-and-forth of the campaign, Obama, a stickler for preparation, resorted to his methodical instincts in trying to create order amidst the swirling scandal.

    But in taking his time, he's let the story linger into a third week.

    After drawing criticism for a listless initial response the day Blagojevich was arrested and accused of trying to sell the Senate seat vacated by the president-elect, Obama went a step further the next day by calling on the governor to resign. On the third day of the story, he announced the internal review. By the next week he acknowledged frustration over not being able to clear up inaccuracies about the case.

    Still, Obama resisted the temptation to spout off and stuck to the original plan: He would allow a written report to speak for him.

    When the transition released the five-page review Tuesday, the day before Christmas Eve, Obama was far removed from the action as he relaxed in Hawaii with his family. The physical distance served the same purpose as the report itself, separating Obama from the swirl of scandal

    3 - No freelancing

    The report suggested Obama wants his advisers to get his permission before even ostensibly private conservations with outsiders.

    Longtime Obama family friend Eric Whitaker seemed to follow this rule when he was approached by Blagojevich deputy Louanner Peters asking who could speak for Obama's preferences for the Senate seat.

    "Dr. Whitaker said he would find out," according to the report. After Whitaker was told by Obama that "no one was authorized to speak for him on the matter," the report states Whitaker "relayed that information to Deputy Governor Peters" and "had no other contacts with anyone from the governor's office."

    On the other side of that ledger was Emanuel, a much newer member of Obama's inner circle, who broke the rule by calling Blagojevich and recommending he tap Jarrett for the seat.

    "He did so before learning -- in further conversations with the president-elect -- that the president-elect had ruled out communicating a preference for any one candidate," according to the report. Later, when Emanuel chatted with Blagojevich's then-chief of staff, the report indicates it was "with the authorization of the president-elect."

    4 - Aides take hits to protect the boss

    Twice in handling the Blagojevich scandal, top Obama lieutenants were singled out for botching the message.

    The report makes clear that Emanuel was the only person in Obama's transition who had any contact with Blagojevich about filling the Senate seat and that his contact wasn't authorized by Obama.

    And Obama political guru David Axelrod made a public mea culpa after his boss contradicted a statement from an interview he gave last month, before the governor's arrest.

    In it, Axelrod unambiguously described a conversation between Obama and Blagojevich about filling the seat, saying, "I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names, many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."

    But after Obama declared he hadn't spoken to Blagojevich, Axelrod issued a statement saying, "I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the president-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy."

    5 – Shy away from even justified fights

    It seems only logical that Obama would want a say in picking his successor in the Senate, since the next junior senator from Illinois will represent the president-elect’s home and could be an important congressional ally.

    But Obama, whose penchant for avoiding tough stands on controversial issues frustrated opponents trying to land a clear shot in the presidential race, also steered clear of the Senate-seat derby, according to the report and Craig’s teleconference.

    Craig said Obama “was not engaging on this in any personal way and had no interest in dictating the result of the selection process.”

    The report says Obama talked with his top aides about a range of prospective Senators, but never winnowed down the group, dispatching Emanuel to relay a list of acceptable candidates to Blagojevich’s office.

    And according to the report, Obama was ambivalent about the Senate aspirations of Jarrett, contradicting the widely reported claim that she was his top choice for the Senate seat. Rather, the report says, Obama’s “preference (was) that Valerie Jarrett work with him in the White House." But it also states he made clear "he would neither stand in her way if she wanted to pursue the Senate seat nor actively seek to have her or any other particular candidate appointed to the vacancy."

    To the extent that the report succeeds in its goal of establishing the distance between Obama and Blagojevich, it necessarily raises the question: Why was the president-elect and leader of the Democratic party playing no role in a key appointment to national office being made in his home state, and by a Democratic governor?

    You forgot one very IMPORTANT thing.......Fitzgerald has said there is no wrong doing with Obama. And to think that the Obama team would not talk to the governor is just crazy. Why wouldn't the team talk to him about the senate seat---happens all the time. The one leaving the seat usually offers names they think would be a good replacement. Hillary did it.
    But what the governor did was try & buy the seat---that is illegal. And the Obama team didn't have anything to do with that....even the tapes tell how
    the governor was upset that they wouldn't play the game.
    Obama held off speaking about this because Fitzgerald asked him to hold off.

    Word has it that Emanuel was the one that went to Fitzgerald about this pay to play scheme of Blag's.

    I guess the republicans are still pissed they lost so they will continue to act
    like children & try to find anything........

    Where were these same people when Cheney & company outed Valerie Plame or when they were illegally firing AG's because they didn't do what they wanted them to do...guess justice is only for the other guy.
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    That's just BULL, Big Guns !!!!
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    Re: Merry Christmas from Barack Obama....lol

    We didnt all vote for him,me included, but he is elected. We are supposed to support our President until it is proven he is not doing his job. So far Obama appears to be giving it his all in at least trying to choose the best of the best for each job. He has my respect and full support .Stop grumping and being a sore looser,move on. It isnt going to be easy to handle the daily issues that are probably going to be coming at us with the economy and all the other challanges we will be facing in the coming year and we need to keep a positive attitude and look at the bright side to get thru it easier.We all should be praying a lot ,laughing a lot, and enjoying what we can while we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEETY2 View Post
    You forgot one very IMPORTANT thing.......Fitzgerald has said there is no wrong doing with Obama. And to think that the Obama team would not talk to the governor is just crazy. Why wouldn't the team talk to him about the senate seat---happens all the time. The one leaving the seat usually offers names they think would be a good replacement. Hillary did it.
    But what the governor did was try & buy the seat---that is illegal. And the Obama team didn't have anything to do with that....even the tapes tell how
    the governor was upset that they wouldn't play the game.
    Obama held off speaking about this because Fitzgerald asked him to hold off.

    Word has it that Emanuel was the one that went to Fitzgerald about this pay to play scheme of Blag's.

    I guess the republicans are still pissed they lost so they will continue to act
    like children & try to find anything........

    Where were these same people when Cheney & company outed Valerie Plame or when they were illegally firing AG's because they didn't do what they wanted them to do...guess justice is only for the other guy.
    Did'nt Valerie Plame's husband out her at some kind of social gathering. If memory serves, he was trying to let people know how important he and his wife were. But of course the truth does not matter to democrats and never has so they pinned it on a bunch of republicans. Typical. By the way, did'nt Slick Willy fire all the AG's when he took office. Did'nt hear any of you kool- aid drinkers complain about that. But then again, that is typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    Did'nt Valerie Plame's husband out her at some kind of social gathering. If memory serves, he was trying to let people know how important he and his wife were. But of course the truth does not matter to democrats and never has so they pinned it on a bunch of republicans. Typical. By the way, did'nt Slick Willy fire all the AG's when he took office. Did'nt hear any of you kool- aid drinkers complain about that. But then again, that is typical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KEETY2 View Post
    But what the governor did was try & buy the seat---that is illegal.
    No, Blowjobovich tried to sell the seat. Big difference.

    By the way, that's what he's referred to in Illinois.

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    Fitting name.
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