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    Appraisals

    No comments about the second round of appraisal increases in a year?

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    No comments about the second round of appraisal increases in a year?
    My complaints go in tomorrow.
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    We have a new guy, and my guess is they plan to get the conservative appraisals of the past up to market value a little bit at a time.
    Read the agenda for the county court and all the crap they blow money on. Then there's the school taxes and the new suburbans we see running up and down the road like flies heading to a party to spend other people's money. You can bet the football staff is already eyeing a new greyhound bus with Eastland painted on the side to make a big splash on out of town trips. Think how awesome it will look parked in front of the Sweetwater McDonalds. The barely created elections administrator is already advertising for an assistant in the classifieds of the local paper.
    Cisco and Eastland started a colossal plot for their fire departments to charge the county tens of thousands per year whether there are any fires or not, now the towns can hog the economic development money for their pet projects. But there isn't enough water in the lakes to support more growth.
    I warned everyone here about big government Republican grant writers and economic development money blowers.
    One tenth of the voters in Cisco and Eastland will have to sign a petition to force their city councils into an election to vote down the economic development tax.
    Not because it is only a half percent, but because it will strangle the economic development corporations for causing all these new taxes with their greed, and also for raiding our water supply.
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    My problem is that we have a house at Lake Leon and pay Gorman School tax. Our taxes were five thousand dollars and three thousand of that was for Gorman School tax. The school should be a part of the Eastland schools. I checked on the computer last night and Gorman has 344 students in all of the schools. Get real they don't need all of that money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    We have a new guy, and my guess is they plan to get the conservative appraisals of the past up to market value a little bit at a time.
    Read the agenda for the county court and all the crap they blow money on. Then there's the school taxes and the new suburbans we see running up and down the road like flies heading to a party to spend other people's money. You can bet the football staff is already eyeing a new greyhound bus with Eastland painted on the side to make a big splash on out of town trips. Think how awesome it will look parked in front of the Sweetwater McDonalds. The barely created elections administrator is already advertising for an assistant in the classifieds of the local paper.
    Cisco and Eastland started a colossal plot for their fire departments to charge the county tens of thousands per year whether there are any fires or not, now the towns can hog the economic development money for their pet projects. But there isn't enough water in the lakes to support more growth.
    I warned everyone here about big government Republican grant writers and economic development money blowers.
    One tenth of the voters in Cisco and Eastland will have to sign a petition to force their city councils into an election to vote down the economic development tax.
    Not because it is only a half percent, but because it will strangle the economic development corporations for causing all these new taxes with their greed, and also for raiding our water supply.
    Just pay your fair share and shut up.

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    Did I just read MM write about big government?

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    I think people will miss Steve Thomas at the tax office. He always treated everyone fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curious_george View Post
    Just pay your fair share and shut up.
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    Did I just read MM write about big government?
    Doesn't anyone remember the Republican's "grass roots" movement?
    Or me saying that change on the national level is not possible without change on the local level?
    As long as there is frivolous spending with our city, county, and school, we will have big government grant writers sending in grant applications trying to grab "our share."
    State and national congressmen are not able to distinguish between what is necessary and what is waste, so they do what they can to please their voters. Here we have money grubbing government employees stealing from the citizenry just like the Republicans have taught them so well.
    Yes Olivia, five thousand dollars for property taxes is outrageous, but that is what happens when parents of little school aged darlings run for school board. They try to hog every dollar they can from local taxpayers to build new stadiums, buy new suburbans and buses, and spend spend spend on football crap, so their children can have the very best that money can buy.
    It is a conflict of interest and parents should be prohibited from serving on school boards. But only a handful emerge from these great local institutions able to make change when they get a job at the local dairy treet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Doesn't anyone remember the Republican's "grass roots" movement?
    Or me saying that change on the national level is not possible without change on the local level?
    As long as there is frivolous spending with our city, county, and school, we will have big government grant writers sending in grant applications trying to grab "our share."
    State and national congressmen are not able to distinguish between what is necessary and what is waste, so they do what they can to please their voters. Here we have money grubbing government employees stealing from the citizenry just like the Republicans have taught them so well.
    Yes Olivia, five thousand dollars for property taxes is outrageous, but that is what happens when parents of little school aged darlings run for school board. They try to hog every dollar they can from local taxpayers to build new stadiums, buy new suburbans and buses, and spend spend spend on football crap, so their children can have the very best that money can buy.
    It is a conflict of interest and parents should be prohibited from serving on school boards. But only a handful emerge from these great local institutions able to make change when they get a job at the local dairy treet.
    I am ready for the remodeling of the Cisco Dairy Queen to be completed. It has been closed too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
    I am ready for the remodeling of the Cisco Dairy Queen to be completed. It has been closed too long.
    It's open.

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    Thanks Lucy. I'm ready for one of their hamburgers.

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    When did they open? Will they still do catfish?

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    Not sure Happy JP. I saw a picture on facebook and the person that took the pic said it was open. Don't know about the catfish meal either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Doesn't anyone remember the Republican's "grass roots" movement?
    Or me saying that change on the national level is not possible without change on the local level?
    As long as there is frivolous spending with our city, county, and school, we will have big government grant writers sending in grant applications trying to grab "our share."
    State and national congressmen are not able to distinguish between what is necessary and what is waste, so they do what they can to please their voters. Here we have money grubbing government employees stealing from the citizenry just like the Republicans have taught them so well.
    Yes Olivia, five thousand dollars for property taxes is outrageous, but that is what happens when parents of little school aged darlings run for school board. They try to hog every dollar they can from local taxpayers to build new stadiums, buy new suburbans and buses, and spend spend spend on football crap, so their children can have the very best that money can buy.
    It is a conflict of interest and parents should be prohibited from serving on school boards. But only a handful emerge from these great local institutions able to make change when they get a job at the local dairy treet.
    It is a privilege to pay taxes you elitist hypocrite. Every dollar the school board invests in shovel ready projects and asset accumulation returns three fold financial benefit to the community and that is the undisputed consensus of all serious economist. You pay only one dollar in taxes and get three dollars of benefit and still complain about it.

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    Still sour grapes about losing the election? You might wiin one if you ran something with a brain, not a Palin, Perry, McCain, or that buffoon.

    Why are property taxes getting high like everything else? Because the value of the dollar decreased when Bush's Republicans cut taxes, but failed to address spending, just like the local grass roots Republicans are doing here, as I have illustrated.

    You voted for it.

    ps: your rent if fixing to go up.

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    We are getting off topic. Lets get back to writing about hamburgers and catfish.

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    I like hand battered onion rings but they are hard to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Still sour grapes about losing the election? You might wiin one if you ran something with a brain, not a Palin, Perry, McCain, or that buffoon.

    Why are property taxes getting high like everything else? Because the value of the dollar decreased when Bush's Republicans cut taxes, but failed to address spending, just like the local grass roots Republicans are doing here, as I have illustrated.

    You voted for it.

    ps: your rent if fixing to go up.
    The Chicago mob fixed the election, we did not lose the election it was stolen.

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    if mm and her elitists friends would stop selling property at a high price around here the taxes wouldnt go up so much plus the state carpetbaggers in austin demanded these outragous hikes to let the schools get more tax moneys from the locals so they can spend the state moneys on stupid crap

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    I like to spend my money on hand battered onion rings. I bet the POTUS gets them when he wants them. Socialism sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homosapian View Post
    plus the state carpetbaggers in austin demanded these outragous hikes to let the schools get more tax moneys from the locals so they can spend the state moneys on stupid crap
    Yes stupid crap like the state water plan. The state thinks our appraisals are too low, so the appraisal district is quite happy to raise them. Our taxes are figured by multiplying the appraisal X(times) the rate. With higher appraisals, our taxes would not increase, if the rate were lowered accordingly.
    Can you just imagine who is on the citizens review board..

    Has anyone heard discussion of lowering the tax rate? I don't think you will either.
    These people condemn drug addicts, however are no different because they can't stop spending.

    Your property taxes might not be so high if our millionaire/ billionaires had not been granted tax abatements, and were paying their property taxes like everyone else.

    Property taxes might not be so high either, if the economic development people had not given free property tax credits to some of these new companies to lure them in here.

    That is what you get with Republicans - the poor and working class pay everyone elses taxes for them.

    You voted for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Yes stupid crap like the state water plan. The state thinks our appraisals are too low, so the appraisal district is quite happy to raise them. Our taxes are figured by multiplying the appraisal X(times) the rate. With higher appraisals, our taxes would not increase, if the rate were lowered accordingly.
    Can you just imagine who is on the citizens review board..

    Has anyone heard discussion of lowering the tax rate? I don't think you will either.
    These people condemn drug addicts, however are no different because they can't stop spending.

    Your property taxes might not be so high if our millionaire/ billionaires had not been granted tax abatements, and were paying their property taxes like everyone else.

    Property taxes might not be so high either, if the economic development people had not given free property tax credits to some of these new companies to lure them in here.

    That is what you get with Republicans - the poor and working class pay everyone elses taxes for them.

    You voted for it.
    If you are not swinging your axe this way you are lamb-blasting the Cities gobbling up the scarce water supplies.
    Get you crap together and try again but remember Democrats drink water too.

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    Don't feed the troll.
    Walk softly and carry a big stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    What do you think DFW will do when it gets really bad? The same thing Eastland and Cisco will do...raise the price of water and property taxes until it forces significant numbers of people to relocate, moving away from draining the water supply...so then what is the use of wasting a fortune trying to get them to move here?
    Is this new state mandated increase in property taxes geared towards forcing resident's to leave, otherwise risking their homes being auctioned off by the appraisal districts?
    Could it be part of the state's new water plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
    We are getting off topic. Lets get back to writing about hamburgers and catfish.

    We ate at the new Cisco DQ this past Friday night. We asked for fish, but they told us they would have it by this coming Friday. It's really nice inside and the food is still good
    You can't fix stupid!

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    I like the Monday night hamburger special.

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    It really does look nice inside and out. Burger was good as usual but no onion rings like I like them. Looking forward to fish night though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingus108 View Post
    If you are not swinging your axe this way you are lamb-blasting the Cities gobbling up the scarce water supplies.
    Get you crap together and try again but remember Democrats drink water too.
    The tea party is opposed to the state's water plan.
    They can see it for the fatcat contractor money raising sham that it is. Just like the Keystone pipeline. Anyone who knows anything about oil knows we don't need that goop down here. At best it is hazardous waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    The tea party is opposed to the state's water plan.
    They can see it for the fatcat contractor money raising sham that it is. Just like the Keystone pipeline. Anyone who knows anything about oil knows we don't need that goop down here. At best it is hazardous waste.
    Why don't you stay out of this subject, you are confused & disoriented.

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    Go look it up. The tea party is opposed to the water plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post
    I think people will miss Steve Thomas at the tax office. He always treated everyone fair.
    I made my case to the Taxman, they backed off and gave me a fair assessment. Sometimes the system works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salty45 View Post
    I made my case to the Taxman, they backed off and gave me a fair assessment. Sometimes the system works.

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    i heard someone say there taxes went up 300 0/0

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    Quote Originally Posted by homosapian View Post
    i heard someone say there taxes went up 300 0/0
    They were trying to do a 200% increase on me, but I brought them down to 20%, which I felt was reasonable.

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    Salty, that is very good that they came down that much. Do you live around Lake Leon? Not trying to be nosy, but, hoping they will do that for the people on the Gorman School tax area side.

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    The Republicans caused every little bit of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivia View Post
    Salty, that is very good that they came down that much. Do you live around Lake Leon? Not trying to be nosy, but, hoping they will do that for the people on the Gorman School tax area side.
    I live in Ranger. I had to take detailed photos of all the structures on the property. They had bad information on the type of house and condition of the garage etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by salty45 View Post
    I live in Ranger. I had to take detailed photos of all the structures on the property. They had bad information on the type of house and condition of the garage etc..
    What a neat trick; threaten you with a 200% increase then when they "back down" and increase it "only" 20% you are so relieved you're thrilled to write that check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious_george View Post
    What a neat trick; threaten you with a 200% increase then when they "back down" and increase it "only" 20% you are so relieved you're thrilled to write that check.
    He is a brain washed Obama fan what else is new?

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    He did something about it.
    Washington sees your own backyards are full of clutter, based on the many grant applications sent to them, and will never do anything about spending until you begin to accept fiscal responsibility on your own local levels.

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    I guess after tasting freedom and liberty it is so sweet that what we are being fed by the present administration taste like, well, you know. And you are right MM you and others voted for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy JP View Post
    I guess after tasting freedom and liberty it is so sweet that what we are being fed by the present administration taste like, well, you know. And you are right MM you and others voted for it.
    You mean the Republican dominated State administration, right? We are talking about local property taxes, right?

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    Ah yes the sweet taste of freedom and liberty for eight Bush years of not having to pay the Republican's taxes for them, instead allowing them to accumulate with interest so now we are in big trouble. How much longer do we have to wait for those Republican spending cuts?
    Well it's carp night at the DQ probably taste better.

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    I thought we were talking about Blizzards, carp ain't bad cooked right. Only problem is if you get too many crooks in kitchen. I mean cooks. Washington D.C. is full of them, crooks that is.

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    Olivia your numbers are old , this last year they are down to 283. With the death of the peanut business the only thing left to tax are the lake homes. They are loosing about 30 students a year which means a huge drop in state funding. So things are only going to get worst. They are administration top heavy and half the teachers are coaches. They play 11 man football rather than 6 along with spending scarce funds on every sport possible- volleyball, cross country, softball, baseball, basketball, track, tennis and even golf. Most small schools do not do all these especially ones that are broke.. I am glad that non of my tax money goes to this mess. The district needs to be closed and split between Eastland and Deleon.

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    Thank you for correcting me. I agree that the schools should be incorporated in the Eastland and Deleon districts. How could the Gorman schools be closed? Would it be up to the Gisd or the state? I don't know anything about their schools just only about the taxes that we pay.

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    Then Eastland could pick up the property tax revenue from all the expensive lake retreats.
    Regardless of what the question may be,
    Socialism is the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Then Eastland could pick up the property tax revenue from all the expensive lake retreats.
    Regardless of what the question may be,
    Socialism is the answer.
    You are wanting someone to take care of you, right?
    They have old folks home for that.

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    Not all of the "lake retreats" are expensive they are just places where people wants to live and enjoy the kind of life they want. You can decide what kind of home you want to have be it ever so humble there is no place like home.

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    MM, I don't really believe that you believe that socialism is the answer. I think you really just like to egg people on. If you do believe in socialism I feel sorry for you. Socialism is not the answer for America's ills. I realize that you don't like republicans, but to wish socialism on your country is not right.

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    MM, he sure likes to stir the pot, or something. I believe it is his alter ego.

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    Does anyone here think a capitalist will take care of them when they lose their health or get old?

    Socialists take care of others.

    Capitalists take care of themselves.

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    What does socialist do for older American's? I use to work for a cancer center here in the state. We had people come from Canada, France, Isreal and England just for the best care they could get. They all said that the U.S. had the best care any where and was the best place in the world. I had the wonderful chance to meet and get to know these great people, the patience's from Canada came because they would not be able to get treatments in a reasonable time. Because of their socialized medicine, that was also true of the people from France and England. They said that it would take them at least two years just to get a ct scan. Much less any treatment at all. So, I can speak from some experience about some health care of foreign countries and socialism. I think you are misguided into thinking that socialism will take care of it's people.
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    What do capitalists do for older Americans? Roll their nurse home beds out to the curb. Ask Paul Ryan.
    Would you rather give your money to Vladimir or a greedy insurance company?
    Vladimir cares about his people.
    Insurance companies don't. That is why we have to hire lawyers to sue them to make them honor their commitments.

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    You are a waste of time.

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    Are you upset because I won't let you win an argument? Okay I'll let you win this one.
    Socialism is bad just look at what it did to the Russians. We need to get rid of all social programs or we will end up just like them. Getting rid of one social program at a time is a good start. Which teacher, firefighter, police officer, postman, or soldier would you like to kick to the curb first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Are you upset because I won't let you win an argument? Okay I'll let you win this one.
    Socialism is bad just look at what it did to the Russians. We need to get rid of all social programs or we will end up just like them. Getting rid of one social program at a time is a good start. Which teacher, firefighter, police officer, postman, or soldier would you like to kick to the curb first?
    Simple enough! They are able to live off a system that can afford them without mistreating the rest of us like slaves

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    In the meantime you and your offspring can live in the freedom this Country offers.
    The opportunity to be poor or rich is up to you, to live as you please without being a serf.
    To have free doctors which can act on their own without interference from anyone.

    The responsibility to vote to make sure we never lose this freedom that so many of our forebearers have died for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupacabra View Post
    Olivia your numbers are old , this last year they are down to 283. With the death of the peanut business the only thing left to tax are the lake homes. They are loosing about 30 students a year which means a huge drop in state funding. So things are only going to get worst. They are administration top heavy and half the teachers are coaches. They play 11 man football rather than 6 along with spending scarce funds on every sport possible- volleyball, cross country, softball, baseball, basketball, track, tennis and even golf. Most small schools do not do all these especially ones that are broke.. I am glad that non of my tax money goes to this mess. The district needs to be closed and split between Eastland and Deleon.
    Actually, Gorman I.S.D. ended the year with 330 students. They have not had cross country, tennis or golf for several years. All of the coaches have a full teaching load as well. There is one superintendent, one elementary principal and one principal for middle school and high school. Gorman has cut many corners over the past few years. The decision to close Gorman and let the kids go to either Eastland or DeLeon would also result in increased taxes because of the increase of students to these school districts and the need for additional teachers and facilities. Hopefully, Gorman will keep a school for a long time.

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    The appraisal district can expect less revenue from lake properties since the values will be decreasing - drastically. Owners of lake cabins across the state are listing theirs for sale due to the lakes drying up, but are receiving few offers. The ones that are selling are discounted deeply, which result in lower property tax appraisals.
    Last edited by MiraculousMutha; 06-20-2013 at 08:10 AM.

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    HVO's tidbits column in the local paper is still complaining about the local property tax increases. The same newspaper touts economic development and growth for our area. Of course higher appraisals naturally accompany this growth.

    Republicans should realize that the value of the dollar fell because of their political beliefs. Everything is higher because of the national debt, the result of Bush's tax cuts without spending cuts, and more recently due to Congressional Republicans failure to cut spending. Wasn't spending cuts their big deal? How long do we have to wait?

    And why does the county auditor need a 2006 suburban? Which the air conditioner will quit on in a month or two and they will decide to replace it with a new one..cuz they give less trouble..while the taxpayers footing the bill for these extravagances drive junkers.

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    In H.V.O's Tidbits column he wrote that in the future explicit detailing of how the public's taxation revenue is being distributed will be printed in the local paper. I can't wait.

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    A few years back the paper printed a list of the businesses which received economic development money and how much, and it was a long list for each town. Those who didn't receive that money were upset because taxpayer money had been used to aid their competitors, and the others were upset because their business had been revealed to the public, causing them to appear as freeloading welfare bums.
    After the loud outcry, no one hears much anymore about how these taxpayer dollars are really spent.

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    Re: Appraisals

    Just curious... at the end of Obama's 8 years, will the economy then be HIS fault? How long does Bush's culpability last?

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    Just curious... at the end of Obama's 8 years, will the economy then be HIS fault? How long does Bush's culpability last?
    Until the Republicans win the White House. At the rate the GOP is running away from their base, it could be a very long time.
    Murphy was an optimist!

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    This will be Bush's Recession until the debt is paid off. Any new debt incurred under Obama and his successors is money used for stimulus and maintenance to repair Bush's damage.

    Our appraisal situation should remedy itself. Word is spreading about how expensive it is to own property here. Property will soon sell for much less than the appraisals, which will lower the local values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    This will be Bush's Recession until the debt is paid off. Any new debt incurred under Obama and his successors is money used for stimulus and maintenance to repair Bush's damage.

    Our appraisal situation should remedy itself. Word is spreading about how expensive it is to own property here. Property will soon sell for much less than the appraisals, which will lower the local values.
    But if the debt incurred during Bush's tenure was to fight terrorism because of Clinton's failure to go after Osama bin Laden, shouldn't this whole mess belong to Clinton?

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    Yes we spent a fortune on the war. But we never would have dug the hole as deep if Bush hadn't cut taxes, or if the Republicans had given him the spending cuts he asked for.

    Since no one wants to cut spending, the only choice we have left is to raise taxes.

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    Wait a minute, hold the phone. Are you saying Bush asked for tax cuts and the republicans didn't give it to him? So some of this isn't really Bush's fault after all? Say it ain't so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Since no one wants to cut spending, the only choice we have left is to raise taxes.
    Why can't the Dems give us spending cuts? I'm sure they could get a few reps to join them.

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    Some people like to buy the new car first, then worry about finding a job. That's what Bush did when he cut taxes 700 billion per year, then asked for 700 billion per year in spending cuts, and it's been downhill ever since. Go ask him, he will tell you to get the spending cuts first, then the tax cuts.

    You can forget about Democrats cutting spending. That is not what they do.
    The Republicans will have to cut spending, like they have been promising all along.

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