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    Greece and the US

    This all has a familiar ring:

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Greeks overwhelmingly rejected creditors' demands for more austerity in return for rescue loans in a critical referendum Sunday, backing Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras, who insisted the vote would give him a stronger hand to reach a better deal.

    Tsipras gambled the future of his 5-month-old left-wing government on the vote. The opposition accused him of jeopardizing the country's membership in the 19-nation club that uses the euro and said a "yes" vote was about keeping the common currency.

    With 70 percent of the votes counted, the "no" side had more than 60 percent. The interior ministry predicted that margin would hold.
    Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis said Sunday night that creditors planned from the start to shut down banks to humiliate Greeks and force them to make a statement of contrition for showing that debt and loans are unsustainable.
    On Sunday, "the Greek people said 'no more' to five years of austerity," he said.
    Thousands of government supporters gathered in central Athens in celebration, waving Greek flags and chanting "No, No, No."

    "We don't want austerity measures anymore, this has been happening for the last five years and it has driven so many into poverty, we simply can't take any more austerity," said Athens resident Yiannis Gkovesis, 26, holding a large Greek flag in the city's main square.

    Governing left-wing Syriza party Eurodeputy Dimitris Papadimoulis said that "Greek people are proving they want to remain in Europe" as equal members "and not as a debt colony." The referendum was Greece's first in 41 years.

    Minister of State Nikos Papas, speaking on Alpha television, said it would be "wrong to link a 'no' result to an exit from the eurozone. If a 'no' prevails that will help us get a better agreement."


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    They are hoping a "better agreement" which will be debt forgiveness, or bankruptcy, which means no one will loan them more money in the future if they fail to repay their loans....kinda like us.
    Waiting now to hear of some idiot in Washington wanting to send them some money.
    That would be the equivalent of them sending us some money since we are so far down. It's going to take more than Ted Cruz or Rick Perry to put us back in the black.

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    We need some serious cuts, not just a decrease in the usual increase. When Washington D.C. has the highest unemployment rate in the nation, we will be on the right track. We could start with eliminating the IRS, Dept. of Energy, Dept. of Education, and demanding a 10% cut in every federal agency. After that, demand that our government return to the Constitution, if it ain't in the Constitution, don't do it. For every new law passed, eliminate 2 obsolete laws. For every dollar of new spending, eliminate 2 dollars of wasteful spending.
    Murphy was an optimist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    We need some serious cuts, not just a decrease in the usual increase. When Washington D.C. has the highest unemployment rate in the nation, we will be on the right track. We could start with eliminating the IRS, Dept. of Energy, Dept. of Education, and demanding a 10% cut in every federal agency. After that, demand that our government return to the Constitution, if it ain't in the Constitution, don't do it. For every new law passed, eliminate 2 obsolete laws. For every dollar of new spending, eliminate 2 dollars of wasteful spending.
    There are more that could be cut, a lot more.
    Do you know the difference between a State office & a Federal office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingus108 View Post
    There are more that could be cut, a lot more.
    Do you know the difference between a State office & a Federal office?
    I agree, more could be cut. Start with the easy stuff and move on. There is also waste at the state level but this thread seemed to be about Greece and the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I agree, more could be cut. Start with the easy stuff and move on. There is also waste at the state level but this thread seemed to be about Greece and the U.S.
    Yes but we could be Greece soon, but don't let any of those squib, anchovie & octopus eaters in.
    I cannot stand the smell, it makes me worried about mutha and the concern he has of Greece. And since when has this forum required any sense.

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    The purpose of the thread is to watch to see what happens to Greece should be a good illustration of what we will face someday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    The purpose of the thread is to watch to see what happens to Greece should be a good illustration of what we will face someday.
    That is a dangerous form of thinking using a small Country like Greece as comparison.
    We have enemies all around us & will be more like the old Soviet Union.

    How much, how little or how severe I think depends on the kind of leader we have.

    Will we have an FDR or a Hover? Will we go on a War footing, do you remember doing without during WW2? Just picture much more servere

    What ever happens will happen because the currant leader has no foresight & to dumb to see where he was leading us. There will blood letting it is almost a certain
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    This was about economics, not foreign policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    This was about economics, not foreign policy.
    Well just wait & see, I would not take any bets if I were you.
    When the Soviet Union went belly up, it disintegrated did it not?
    Do you think for one minute that our neighbor to the South will help us?
    If the Country goes belly up here comes World Order wither we want it or not.
    If it happens on Obama's watch I think our rear is in serious trouble.

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    The neighbor to the South would be belly up if it weren't for American dollars flowing there from immigrant workers here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    The neighbor to the South would be belly up if it weren't for American dollars flowing there from immigrant workers here.
    It is not just illegals not at all.
    Mexico has pushed all of the bad elements of their population up here on us, Don't you know anything? This is straight from Trump
    Taken Billions of Dollars from Ford & Ford is still investing billions of dollars down there. Selling our cars to us made in Mexico, along with Chrysler.
    That giant Whoosh Ross warned us about is still sucking our brains & money.
    Mexico is not our friend, they have out-screwed Obama & his crowd
    big time in trade talks.

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    Mexico has invested a fortune in money and lives to keep us supplied with dope.

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    Where do you get US? You talking about yourself & neighbors?

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