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    Political Clubs in Our Local Schools

    According to the local paper, Zach Maxwell who is helping with Republican Mike Lang's campaign to take Jim Keffers old seat in the Texas House,

    is helping to organize a Young Conservatives political club in the Brownwood Public Schools and also hoping to organize the same political Christian Conservative club in our local schools.

    We may assume this is an attempt to push Christianity and Conservatism, otherwise known as the Religious Right, ideals down the throats of our children while they are in their formative years, and before they are fully capable of weighing these matters for themselves. Our schools are no place for religion and religious based political arguing.

    Wouldn't a math club or a spelling club be a better idea since no one can spell, many of our graduates are practically illiterate, and have to have an automatic cash register because they are unable to make change?

    This leaves us to assume the candidate Mike Lang would also be in favor of this public school curriculum hijacking.

    About the time I think the Republicans have some good ideas going for them, one of the screwballs ups and pulls something stupid like this.
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    The liberals, homos, Gays, atheists, communists, Marxist, tree huggers & Greene's Have been at it a long time as it is. Now you want to raise a stink about the truth?
    That figures.

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    This is something best handled by the children's parents, or their church since these republicans have chosen to mix religion with politics.

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    There cannot be any virtue or liberty without a honest fair Judicial System.
    Something a friend of mine is sorely lacking.
    As a judge he is getting quite the reputation as liar in meditation.

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    I'm not in favor of religion in public schools. This is a personal choice that should be dealt with by a child's parents, not people with a lopsided political agenda which happens to center around their personal financial gain.
    Republican over reach is why our next president will be a Democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    I'm not in favor of religion in public schools. This is a personal choice that should be dealt with by a child's parents, not people with a lopsided political agenda which happens to center around their personal financial gain.
    Republican over reach is why our next president will be a Democrat.
    You have that so wrong, the good Lord looks after the people that look after themselves.
    It don't include lying & stealing like a Democrat.
    I pity the poor child that is not exposed to the Bible teaching at an early age.
    You may have cheated him or her out of heaven & into a life time of hell

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    Not my job to raise other people's kids, or the schools, as much as republicans would like to indoctrinate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    Not my job to raise other people's kids, or the schools, as much as republicans would like to indoctrinate them.
    Quit putting road blocks out for the kiddies would be of some help, you think?

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    This will drive them away from the church, and the school. Notice how church attendance dropped sharply after the big Bush Republican flag wavers took hold.
    Also about that time Muslim has become the fastest growing religion in the world.
    There is a reason. What do you think it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    This will drive them away from the church, and the school. Notice how church attendance dropped sharply after the big Bush Republican flag wavers took hold.
    Also about that time Muslim has become the fastest growing religion in the world.
    There is a reason. What do you think it is?
    Are you joining the crowd?
    Well anyway, I notice the Koran is older than Muhammad according to the latest research.
    On the rush to committ self destruction, I notice the have nots over there out number the haves that will not share it.

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    Mitt2016 - He'll stop the moral decline... moral decay... of our country.

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    The school system should be privatized, allow competition. Giving parents a choice for their children and giving the schools an incentive to compete and improve would give the kids a better education for less money.
    Murphy was an optimist!

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    Hey that's a good idea Dave then we could be rid of school taxes.

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    I would rather get rid of the IRS and income taxes, and continue to pay school taxes, just allow the money to go to a voucher system attached to the student. The Fair Tax Plan has my support. http://www.fairtaxplan.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil View Post
    Mitt2016 - He'll stop the moral decline... moral decay... of our country.
    You are joking, right? We haven't had that person come along yet. That is something that our churches seem to be failing at, what on earth makes you think a single government leader could make a difference? Besides.. is that really the job of a President? To be the judge of our morals in society? What time since the creation of man has our society been in anything except a moral decline? Then again.. are we really as bad as we say we are? Or is it just different aspects of our society that are in moral decline? There are some things I think are much better than they have ever been. My opportunities as a female for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I would rather get rid of the IRS and income taxes, and continue to pay school taxes, just allow the money to go to a voucher system attached to the student. The Fair Tax Plan has my support. http://www.fairtaxplan.org/
    So the object of a private school would be to get as many students as possible in order to pay the bills? Would it just be a free market thing... like those going to the school would decide if it's the school for them? Performance may be the reason some go to one school... Passing students without requiring much work could be the appeal to another school... the best football team might be the attraction at another. They would survive according to whatever niche they could fill or what the market in their area demands. Or would there still be some federal requirements for what they have to know when they graduate? Would the schools get to pick and choose their students, or does anyone with a voucher get to pick out which school they go to. There wouldn't be any competition in rural areas, so I guess they could just do the minimum, hire the cheapest teachers, etc. in those areas, right?

    I'm big on socialism when it comes to public education. Because you were born to poor, uneducated parents in a poor neighborhood should not mean that you have less education opportunity, inferior teachers and fewer tools than the student in a wealthy neighborhood. Overall, it would save our government a lot of money to be producing a higher percentage of better educated/skilled citizens. I can't find a real advantage to having such a large group of healthy adults using so much government assistance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    According to the local paper, Zach Maxwell who is helping with Republican Mike Lang's campaign to take Jim Keffers old seat in the Texas House,

    is helping to organize a Young Conservatives political club in the Brownwood Public Schools and also hoping to organize the same political Christian Conservative club in our local schools.

    We may assume this is an attempt to push Christianity and Conservatism, otherwise known as the Religious Right, ideals down the throats of our children while they are in their formative years, and before they are fully capable of weighing these matters for themselves. Our schools are no place for religion and religious based political arguing.

    Wouldn't a math club or a spelling club be a better idea since no one can spell, many of our graduates are practically illiterate, and have to have an automatic cash register because they are unable to make change?

    This leaves us to assume the candidate Mike Lang would also be in favor of this public school curriculum hijacking.

    About the time I think the Republicans have some good ideas going for them, one of the screwballs ups and pulls something stupid like this.
    I had a nice reply for this, but then I clicked on something on my laptop and the page changed and it all went away. grrrr.

    I think we are on the same page here. No religion in school.. no political agendas in school. The first one is more about the rights of the parent... I don't guess there is a constitutional right for freedom of politics. I would really like it if there could be a constitutional right to freedom from politics. lol

    I don't think I have a right to infringe on a teacher's religious rights by telling them what religious beliefs I want them to be confined to or stay away from if they speak to my child about religion... so the government should afford me the same rights by not infringing on my rights to raise my child in the religion of MY choice. I don't want some teacher/administrator spewing some religious opinion that I might believe is outlandish or in contrast to my own beliefs on my child. And something I consider to be in contrast could even come from someone who calls themselves Christian. What if we had some teachers who believe like those crazy Westboro Baptist church people. Would you want them recruiting your child?

    I want teachers who are ethical, don't steal, don't lie, treat kids fairly, and they should be able to get a concept across to young people. Because these good teachers are looked up to, they carry with them a lot of influence. Their influence should be used to teach...not recruit.

    No one has a problem with religion, politics and moral teachings in school as long as it falls in line with their own beliefs. Opening the door for that, however, also opens the door for a shift in what those religious, political and moral teachings could be.

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    When the school boards of public schools, or administrators of private schools make the choice to invoke their religious and political beliefs on the children of others, they will certainly hire teachers with the same conservative beliefs.
    Doing so will severely limit their choice of teacher prospects who possess much of an education themselves since most masters and doctorates will have a liberal slant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiraculousMutha View Post
    When the school boards of public schools, or administrators of private schools make the choice to invoke their religious and political beliefs on the children of others, they will certainly hire teachers with the same conservative beliefs.
    Doing so will severely limit their choice of teacher prospects who possess much of an education themselves since most masters and doctorates will have a liberal slant.
    The liberal slant will not necessary lead to a unbiased youth, more like reeducation progressive training for useful idiots. I think the Christian beliefs have served ourselves & this Country well the last few hundred years.
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    I don't think anyone wants teachers, administrators, boards or others making the choice to invoke their religious and political beliefs on the children of others. I just want them to get out of the way of religious and political beliefs that may be held by the children. I want them to quit putting up roadblocks that prohibit a child from reading his/her bible or saying "God Bless you" when someone sneezes. If the child wants to join a group of others of like persuasion, such as conservative Christians, he/she should be able to do so without criticism or oppression. No one forces a child to join a math club or a music club. They do so because they want to associate with others who have the same interests. Same with a Young Conservatives Club. No one is twisting their arms to make them join. Just the opposite... arms are being twisted, criticism and/or oppression administered to KEEP them from having such a club. If they can have a Fellowship of Christian Athletes, why not a Fellowship of Christian Conservatives? Why? I'll tell you why... it's because the liberals are scared to death that young people may hear TRUTH instead of constantly being barraged by liberal lies. Holy Cow, Batman, that might cause our country to resemble our forefathers' visions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil View Post
    I don't think anyone wants teachers, administrators, boards or others making the choice to invoke their religious and political beliefs on the children of others. I just want them to get out of the way of religious and political beliefs that may be held by the children. I want them to quit putting up roadblocks that prohibit a child from reading his/her bible or saying "God Bless you" when someone sneezes.
    Any teacher or administrator who is getting in the way of a student and his/her religion because they think it shouldn't happen at school, is misinterpreting those laws.

    If the child wants to join a group of others of like persuasion, such as conservative Christians, he/she should be able to do so without criticism or oppression. No one forces a child to join a math club or a music club. They do so because they want to associate with others who have the same interests. Same with a Young Conservatives Club. No one is twisting their arms to make them join. Just the opposite... arms are being twisted, criticism and/or oppression administered to KEEP them from having such a club. If they can have a Fellowship of Christian Athletes, why not a Fellowship of Christian Conservatives?
    if the school opens it's doors to before or after school clubs, organizations, etc., there isn't a problem in the world with that.. as long as when they open it to one religious organization they realize that they could run into problems if some religion they aren't as fond of, also wants the same set up. My only objection is if they are having speakers during class time that the students are required to attend with a political or religious agenda. I don't care if it's conservative or liberal, Jewish, Muslem or Christian. It's not appropriate to recruit other people's children during scheduled class time.

    Why? I'll tell you why... it's because the liberals are scared to death that young people may hear TRUTH instead of constantly being barraged by liberal lies. Holy Cow, Batman, that might cause our country to resemble our forefathers' visions!
    Yes the conservatives have all the truths and tell no lies and the liberals are heathens and lie. Got it. I don't particularly like labels like conservative or liberal. Apparently you have to be in one group or the other.. I don't want to be in either. I don't want to be part of a group who wants to exclude others. I don't want to be part of a group who thinks anyone with different ideas must be an idiot, a liar, or misguided. I especially don't want to be part of a group that divides us.

    Our forefathers did a pretty good job of making sure we are insured individual freedoms. Our country was built by immigrants of different faiths, languages and different political ideas. Diversity is what has made us great. Take away the diversity and you have.. well.. some of those countries we can't imagine living in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mingus108 View Post
    The liberal slant will not necessary lead to a unbiased youth, more like reeducation progressive training for useful idiots. I think the Christian beliefs have served ourselves & this Country well the last few hundred years.
    In many homes and neighborhoods in America the last few hundred years, there have been people with non-Christian beliefs who feel their religion has served them well. This country isn't Christian... This country doesn't have a religion at all. The majority of the people in this country are Christians. Our forefathers set up that freedom of religion thing (notice it doesn't say anything about which religion), so that individuals with religious beliefs that are in the minority would not be infringed upon by those in the majority. That even though 90% of the country were of one religion, the government could not establish that as the country's religion. They had been there, done that and didn't want it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    In many homes and neighborhoods in America the last few hundred years, there have been people with non-Christian beliefs who feel their religion has served them well. This country isn't Christian... This country doesn't have a religion at all. The majority of the people in this country are Christians. Our forefathers set up that freedom of religion thing (notice it doesn't say anything about which religion), so that individuals with religious beliefs that are in the minority would not be infringed upon by those in the majority. That even though 90% of the country were of one religion, the government could not establish that as the country's religion. They had been there, done that and didn't want it again.
    Our beliefs are what is being infringed upon, if a group wants a prayer at times it is none of anyones business.
    Christian morals & the belief in God has served this Country well the last few hundred years.
    I say this as one that came in out of the rain & hell at a later age when I discovered that my past life was not getting me anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post

    ...I think we are on the same page here. No religion in school.. no political agendas in school. The first one is more about the rights of the parent... I don't guess there is a constitutional right for freedom of politics. I would really like it if there could be a constitutional right to freedom from politics. lol
    OK, cancel the social studies, geography and history classes!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    I don't think I have a right to infringe on a teacher's religious rights ...
    But its' ok for a teacher to infringe on the students' religious rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julie View Post
    Any teacher or administrator who is getting in the way of a student and his/her religion because they think it shouldn't happen at school, is misinterpreting those laws.
    Happens every day! And no one stands up and says, "Hey, that's wrong!". And when someone DOES stand up and say it, liberals try to paint them as bigots or religious fanatics. For the libs, it's all about CONTROL. For the most part, conservatives want people ... all people... to be able to worship as they wish, without some liberal trying to exercise control over it.

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    I want to make it perfectly clear that I have the highest regard for teachers. Teachers are heroes. But political correctness has caused many people to compromise their beliefs, simply to avoid offending someone.

    It's not against the law to offend someone, despite what liberals would have you believe.

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    How bout those SAT scores less than half of the U.S. students had high enough scores to go to college. Sounds like we need to get back to education basics and not political correctness. Need more momma and papas involved with their kids education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy JP View Post
    How bout those SAT scores less than half of the U.S. students had high enough scores to go to college. Sounds like we need to get back to education basics and not political correctness. Need more momma and papas involved with their kids education.
    That would require personal responsibility, something we are in a short supply of in the homes of the big Cities.

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    There are only so many hours in a day. The time has already come and gone to decide if the students will be spending more time with extracurricular crap or their academics.
    Everyone knows what choice was made there.

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